Comments on: grub and knetworkmanager problems in Kubuntu Karmic

By: Shantanu Goel

Shantanu Goel — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:10:55 +0000

@sims: Reinstalling the OS was certainly not a “reflex”. I infact tried reinstalling grub (it is mentioned in the post as well) and infact I did a lot more of mucking around and only reinstalled as a last resort. If you do install kubuntu 9.10 like I did, you will realize that what you are suggesting will not work because this is a bug in grub 2 that it just doesn’t install on anything other than MBR (may have been fixed now) and installing grub over a grub 2 installation also has a lot of issues.
And I don’t know where you got the idea about config files and GUI, I am as comfortable as one can get with editing my configs by hand but I am not at all comfortable if my systems locks up doing simple tasks like launching a web browser, or a terminal. That is something I expect from an MS system, not linux and hence the grudge.
PS: Looks like you took my “moving to kubuntu” as moving from MS to linux but actually I was moving from “ubuntu to kubuntu”.

By: Shantanu Goel

Shantanu Goel — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:03:22 +0000

@zman: Well, I’d expect a stable behaviour from any point release of ubuntu\kubuntu, not just LTS, because it is not a “beta” or “RC”, it is supposed to be stable and not for testing. About moving to Ubuntu 9.10/gnome, well actually that is exactly what I did around 3-4 days after writing that post and it has been flawless ever since

By: sims

sims — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:32:10 +0000

Ummm, you just need to chroot and then install grub or lilo. Reinstalling the entire OS was a sort of… ummm well… I guess it’s like a MS Windows reflex:
1. reboot
2. reinstall

2 lockups man? How about doing all config via text files. That’s considered the norm where I come from. Anything else with a GUI and you should consider yourself lucky. I’m no Linux evangelist. If you want point and click and tech support, stick with MS and Apple. Google seems to be headed there too.

Good luck!

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Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:37:29 +0000

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By: Mr. Pink

Mr. Pink — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:19:58 +0000

I dual boot my system along with Win XP (Needed for some office work)
Well, as long as you’re being apologetic about it Linux gestapo is gonna let you slide this time.

By: zman58

zman58 — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:44:39 +0000

You are on the leading edge and you are on Kubuntu. I would not expect flawless behavior in this case. Stick with LTS (8.04 for now) if stability is your desire. Use the latest 9.10 only for testing and to experience new features.
I have been using the most current Ubuntu 9.10 on several systems for some time now, not KUbuntu. Ubuntu 9.10 has been working flawlessly for me both on desktop systems and laptop systems. Network manager under Gnome has not failed on me even once and I have used it for network switching between wired and wireless on live systems. Multi-boot has been working well also.

Perhaps try Ubuntu 9.10 (Gnome) and you may find that your problems vanish. Add any of the KDE apps you want to use on top of that. Leave the K Desktop out of the picture for now, at least until you get back to a LTS stable release level. How’s that for a plan?